GUILTY: The “Liquor Bandit” at it Again, Over 11 Theft Convictions

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(THUNDER BAY, ON) – Serial alcohol thief 42-year-old Loren Troy Menzies from Muskrat Dam First Nation appeared in plea court today from the prisoner’s box regarding yet another LCBO theft he executed. He’s no stranger to the criminal justice system as he has over 11 convictions in the last couple years.

His Honour, Justice Peter Bishop is presiding along with Crown Attorney Afton Brown and Menzies criminal defence lawyer.

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Today, Menzies is facing a theft charge and breaching his probation order which stated he had to “keep the peace and be of good behaviour”.

A plea deal is made with Menzies which will see him plead guilty to the theft charge and one breach of probation. In exchange for his guilty plea and saving the courts time by avoiding a trial, the other two charges of breaching probation are withdrawn.

The agreed statement of facts indicate that on October 18th, 2019, Loren Troy Menzies entered the LCBO located at 101 Cumberland Street and picked up a bottle of Rye, specifically Seagrams. He then stuffed it in his jacket and exited the store, passing all points of sale without attempting to pay for it. Police were called and they managed to arrest Menzies a short distance away. The bottle was recovered but was not in resellable condition.

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Court hears that Menzies lengthy and related criminal record is an aggravating factor in this matter. Menzies was raised in Oshawa until he was 11-years-old but also lived in Sioux Lookout. Menzies income is from Ontario Works and it appears to the Crown that Menzies has addiction issues.

A joint submission is put forth by both the Crown and defence which would see Menzies released from jail today. He’s spent 25 days in jail which is enhanced on a 1 to 1.5 basis due to the deplorable conditions at the Thunder Bay District Jail. He has 38 days of jail time banked.

Court hears that Menzies still has a substantial amount of time left on his previous probation, so no probation order is being sought with this guilty plea.

His Honour accepts the joint submission and tells Menzies “You can’t have this five finger discount”. He further tries to guide the man to do better with his life. His Honour mentions how he knows a number of Menzies from the Sioux Lookout area and explains they are all good people.

Menzies is let out of the prisoner’s box and his handcuffs are taken off. He has to wait to sign some paperwork before he leaves the courtroom but he is now a free man.

HISTORY ON MENZIES

Article from November 26th, 2018.

An Oshawa-born 41-year-old Loren Troy Menzies appeared in a Judge’s court today while in custody to enter a guilty plea to the following criminal charges:

  • Theft under $5000 x2
  • Resisting arrest

Her Honour, Justice Elaine Burton is presiding, along with Crown Attorney Gordon Fillmore.

Menzies is read his charges and asked if he pleads guilty or not guilty, he pleads guilty to all 3 charges. His defence lawyer, Michael Hargadon is standing next to the prisoner’s box, which contains only Menzies.

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FACTS

August 15th, 2018 around 10:00 pm the Thunder Bay Police Service received an online report from the manager of the LCBO at 1095 Arthur Street West regarding a theft.

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Two males had entered the store, one known to the manager as Troy Menzies. Menzies had placed a 1.75 litres of Smirnoff Vodka valued around 66$ in his jacket.

Menzies left the store without paying. When he was asked to return, he fleed the scene. The store had video surveillance of the theft, which was provided to police.

Police made a positive ID on Menzies through that video and photos on file.

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November 14th, 2018 Loss prevention officers at the Wal-Mart located on 1020 Dawson Road noticed Menzies had come in and out of the store several times during the day but had not taken anything.

Around 4:25 pm Menzies was in the jewelry department of the Wal-Mart, and had put some watches and bracelets into the left side of his jacket. Loss prevention officers continued to surveil him and observed him exit the store, walking past all points of sale.

Menzies exited into the mall, where loss prevention officers confronted him in the hallway. Officers informed him that he was under arrest and that he needed to come with them. Menzies then dropped the merchandise and then took a couple swings at the officers with a closed fist. Menzies missed all punches.

Menzies attempted to flee the area as the loss prevention officers phoned the police. Officers followed Menzies outside, and eventually, he agreed to return to the mall.

Defence counsel Hargadon states that Menzies doesn’t admit to the punches, but does admit to resisting arrest. Further, Hargadon admits the facts are “substantially correct”

The Wal-Mart heist has an estimated value of around $39.

The Crown Attorney submits Menzies lengthy criminal record with about 14 related offences.

Menzies admits that he has been wrapped in addiction since his early 20’s, mainly surrounding alcohol.

The proposed jail time suggested for these offences is 60 days, along with a 1-year probationary period afterwards that would see him prohibited from entering all LCBO’s and Wal-Mart’s in Thunder Bay. He would have 42 days left to serve after today.

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Justice Burton begins to address Menzies directly, and tells him that “it’s bad enough to be a thief, but you’re just making it worse for yourself if you resist arrest”.

Her Honour further tells him that he is employable, and not a write-off. She urges him to turn his life around and tells him that he can do better. Furthermore, she tells him that if he continues to break the law, he will be going to jail from now on.

Justice Burton tells him that she is not going to put any rehabilitory conditions on his probation order, as he is old enough, and has been on probation many times, without any approval. She tells him that if he wants to turn his life around, he knows how to access the programs and people that will help him. She tells him that there are many people out there who want to help him.

Justice Burton grants the joint submission, and sets out his probation order with the following conditions:

  • Keep the peace and be of good behaviour
  • Appear before the court when required to do so
  • Notify the court or probation officer of any change of name/address/employment
  • Report to probation within 2 days of being released
  • Not attend any LCBO’s in Thunder Bay
  • Not attend any LCBO’s in Thunder Bay

Menzies is escorted back into the basement of the courthouse, into his jail cell. He will wait there until the prisoner transport vehicle picks him up and brings him back to jail to complete his sentence.

HISTORY ON MENZIES

A 2007 incident in Weagamow Lake First Nation where Menzies was charged with several serious criminal code offences had some light shed on it by Sioux Lookout OPP.

It was a Saturday afternoon when officers were confronted by a then 30-year-old Loren Troy Menzies.

An altercation ensued and one of the police officers shot his gun. Police then took Menzies into custody and he was treated for a minor injury.

Menzies was charged with:

  • Assault with a weapon
  • Assaulting a police officer
  • Possessing weapons dangerous to the public peace

MORE HISTORY ON MENZIES

February 1st, 2019 via Thunder Bay Courthouse – Inside Edition

MAN BANNED FROM ALL WALMART AND LCBO STORES IN THUNDER BAY ARRESTED AGAIN FOR STEALING FROM WALMART AND LCBO.

Appearing this morning, Friday February 1,2019 by video to Bail Courtroom 104 from the TBPS Station is 41 year old LOREN TROY MENZIES.

MENZIES was arrested by Loss Prevention Officer at LCBO on Cumberland Street yesterday for alleged theft of alcohol. The crime was captured on video. Thunder Bay Police also found he had stolen merchandise from Walmart again. He is facing 4 criminal charges.

  • Theft under 5000$ X 2.
  • Breach of probation X 2.

MENZIES was sentenced to 60 days in jail plus 1 year probation on November 26,2018. (See link in comments).

Apparently that’s not enough of a deterrent to change his behaviour

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EVEN MORE HISTORY ON MENZIES

Article courtesy of Thunder Bay Courthouse – Inside Edition dated February 14th, 2019

MAN BANNED FROM EVERY LCBO AND WALMART IN THUNDER BAY SENTENCED TO 60 DAYS IN JAIL.

WITH STATUTORY RELEASE, CHRONIC BOOZE THIEF LOREN TROY MENZIES WILL BE OUT IN ABOUT 32 DAYS

Appearing handcuffed in Courtroom 102 on Wednesday February 13,2019 before His Honour Justice Peter Bishop is 41 year old
LOREN TROY MENZIES.

Provincial Crown Attorney Jane Ann McGill is present along with defence attorney Michael Hargadon and they have a joint submission for the court.

ADMITTED FACTS

LOREN TROY MENZIES entered the LCBO on Cumberland Street February 1,2019 at 10:04am despite being prohibited to do so and stole a bottle of Kentucky Bourbon valued at 41.95$. TBPS were called and MENZIES was last seen running Northbound with 3 others.
Less than 3 hours later at 12:50pm he entered the same store and brazenly stole a bottle of Wisers Special Blend Whiskey valued at 40.10$.

Shortly after, in minus 23C weather, police were called to Max Pawn shop on Red River Road about a person outside trying to fight people. Police arrive to find MENZIES passed out and intoxicated on sidewalk with the 2 partially drunk bottles of alcohol on him. He’s arrested and brought to jail where he’s been since.

IN THE PAST YEAR ALONE, MENZIES HAS 11 CONVICTIONS FOR THEFT.

He doesn’t seem to be getting the deterrence message that has been sent by previous trips to jail.

MENZIE grew up in Oshawa and is the father of 2 children, 10 & 12 who reside in Round Lake. He’s a band member of Muskrat Dam.

His lawyer further states he’s an inter generational alcoholic. He does have a high school diploma and did do some college, but can’t seem to stop stealing and drinking.

“You should look into trying to be a father to your children and a productive member of society. You’re an alcoholic, you should look at getting help. There are plenty of programs available. It’s obvious you would have froze to death if police hadn’t come along ” His Honour Bishop tells Menzies as he passes sentence of 30 days in jail for each theft for a total 60 days.

With presentence custody of 12 days enhanced to 18, total time going forward is 42 days. He’ll be released from jail mid-March.

MENZIES has nothing to say when asked by the court.

He’s led out of courtroom to head back to jail.
Remaining charges against MENZIES are withdrawn by Crown.

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2 Replies to “GUILTY: The “Liquor Bandit” at it Again, Over 11 Theft Convictions”

  1. 10-90-100

    Another lazy welfare scamming, freeloading thief gets a stern warning and put back on the streets. How f_____g stupid are our JPs and judges. A leopard doesn’t change it’s spots. This asshole’s behaviour isn’t going to change. Look at his record FFS! He a career criminal and should be kept in jail sufficiently long enough to send him a strong signal that his bullshit won’t be tolerated.

    Unbelievable judicial incompetence.

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